How important is golf club fitting?

What I have for you today is an inside look at the tour van on the Champions tour.  The tour van is usually available near the driving range on Tuesdays through Thursdays and then good bye and good luck if you break a club during the tournament.

I guess they need to get to the next town so I don’t blame them for leaving.

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Not everything provided by the tour van is golf club repair.  Adjustments or tinkering is in order and quite common.  A quick grip change because it doesn’t feel just right.  Bend your lie angles because you missed too many greens the week before.  Are they all head cases, or is club fitting a moving target just like the golf swing?

One would assume they these very experienced professionals had already been fitted with the best technology available with launch monitors etc.  The tour rep for the company they play, (most all golf club companies have a tour rep that travels the tour attempting to convince players to switch to their brand and offer service to the pros that are already have on board) is available with all the very latest and greatest clubs, fully tested at the factory.

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Facts is, golf club fitting with a computer, launch monitor or the space shuttle, is a close but not full end all fitting to any golf swing. There is where the talent lies in knowing what the golf swing is begging for.  We just mentioned the key, your golf swing gets to pick your golf club configuration not the computer!  If you do NOT have a repeatable golf swing, you and your fitter need to determine if the golf clubs you have now are interfering with your ability to improve your golf swing to the point that it can be considered FIT ABLE.

golf-club-lie-anglesYour golf swing is a never ending work in progress so your golf clubs will be no different.  If you purchased the latest new golf clubs thinking the search is over your misinformed. You should and will be always tinkering with your golf clubs just like you’re tinkering with your swing. 

How?  Just your lie angles for instance.  If your path to the golf ball changes, your lie angle will need to adjust accordingly.  Having an improper lie angle is like driving your car with the wheels out of alignment. 

What do you do if you’re an outright hacker?  Oh, I like those the best!  That’s where I can do what I like to call an orthopedic fit.  I can take static measurements and determine that the perfect swing path for that individual body type is exactly one degree upright and 1/2 inch longer in golf club length.  Now that individual will have to accommodate the golf club configuration instead of the other way around!  If he/she swings over the top the down swing, the golf club will bow down and the lie angle will be too flat and push the golf ball out to the right, (for right handers).  Under what I call the orthopedic fit, the golfer has to learn to swing on a flatter plane or start with the arms first, in order to get the best results.

I like to say, “your golf club configuration should reward you when you make your best motion.”  An improper fit will force you to make a poor swing motion that fits the configuration to get the desired results.

In summary, golf club fitting is not so cut and dry like the golf club companies want yo to think.  After all they have to sell their golf clubs and someone like me clouds the issue with attempting to be a tailor rather then selling suits at Macy’s.

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How to increase distance with your driver without increasing club head speed.

I’ve got an interesting video for you that shows hard numbers to support what I’ve been telling our students for quite some time. Don’t hit down, hit up on the ball? The launch angle needs to be much higher than many club fitting experts claim and again here’s proof below.

Our subject picked up about 50 yards just by changing his tilt and path through the golf ball. He went from a launch angle of about 8 degrees to 20 degrees. He didn’t change drivers either so so much for buying a new driver thinking that you will pick up a ton of distance. An extra 4 or 5 yards maybe?

If you’re not sure if your swing path is what it should be get out your cell phone and video your golf swing from front and down the line and email it to bobbylopez@quickfixgolf.com

Single Length Bryson DeChambeau Golf Clubs Part VII

Finally a completed set of
single length golf clubs for you to try!

If you don’t mind me bragging a little here, one of our fine student/members Paul Belmont sent me a video of an interview with the developer of Edel Golf Clubs, David Edel who was the golf club builder that built Bryson DeChambaeau’s first set of truly balanced set of single length irons.

Here’s the bragging part.  You will see form his video that he and I both came to same conclusions!  I promise you I did not see this video until this morning!!!!  This certifies that I was right on target and that the information you have received is accurate and you can trust us again to give you the right scoop without bias.

Here’s another point you might want to consider after watching the video below.  Our set of 5 – Gap Wedge will cost $579,  ($399 to our student/members) and the Edel irons are $1,750, 5 – PW, GW.  The Edel club heads are 1030 carbon steel forged, while our club heads are 431 stainless steel, but I am playing the 431 steel set myself having been a forged golfer forever and I’m not disappointed at all.

I’m going to take some pictures of our single and multiple length golf clubs and post them on the Bog tomorrow so watch for it. Now take a moment to watch the first part of this video about the single length irons.  The second half is about putters and also interesting if you have the time.

Golf Clubs Like Bryson DeChambeau Part IV

Single length golf clubs for the irons only!

We’re getting closer and I know you might be impatient by now but we want to get right, not fast.  I take it very seriously when I recommend something to others.  Unlike golf pros that will endorse anything for a buck, I refuse to promote something I wouldn’t use for my self.

We’re real close on what is the 5 iron through the AW.  We have the five iron flying higher than our earlier version.  I’ve tried so many different address positions, swinging more upright and then back to my old set-up that I’ve lost count.  I can say one thing.  I think the one ball position is a plus and it does make it more likely that one would take the same position more often if there were only one to learn or perform.

The problem with the hybrid so far is I think it has to be longer than the irons.  Bryson makes his 3 iron longer than the rest of his irons so it just makes sense that you need some length to help with the lower lofted golf club.  For instance, his irons are 37.5 inches long, (about seven iron length) but his three iron is 39″ long.

The first hybrid we made, (keep in mind this hybrid weighs like a seven iron 242 grams) with a steel shaft just like the rest of the iron set.  Poo poo terrible!  Muy malo!   So I built a hybrid with the graphite shaft same length.  Nada!  Just as bad.  Then I built the hybrid with a graphite shaft and made it 39.5 inches so I could choke up some and try different lengths.  I also made the shaft a bit softer, more flexible.  Walla!  What a difference!  Ball jumped up in the air and I was pretty satisfied.

Don’t get out the Champagne yet!  One BIG problem.  In order for the hybrid to be a full 272 grams they had to make the head bigger.  More mass.  The typical hybrid four head weight is about 249 grams.  The bigger head needed in order to get 272 grams makes the club head to big to cut through the grass like I would want.  That’s probably why Bryson doesn’t have one?  No reason why we can’t go with a standard hybrid weight and just under standard length.

While Bryson’s three iron is 39 inches long his fairway wood is 44 inches.  So there is somewhat of a contradiction here.  Shorter irons, woods and long irons standard?

Nest step is I have a complete other set of heads coming in with all graphite shafts.  Lets see how the graphite shafts do along with the possibility of steel shafts in the 7,8,9,PW,AW and then graphite in the 5 and 6 irons.  Being I will be at the PGA show this week it might be until the end of the month until I can put them together for testing.

Here’s a new video below:

Single Length Golf Clubs Part III

There’s More To This Golf Club Configuration Than What the Golf Club Companies Are Telling You

We would be remiss if we didn’t take a serious look at both Bryson DeChambeau’s golf swing as well as Moe Norman, the supposed mentor of his instructor.  Yes there are similarities but not when it comes to lie angle on the golf club or swing plane angle.  Funny enough, Moe talks about being very vertical in one of his videos but watching him on film he is quite shallow.

This must have created a difficult decision for the golf club companies in that do you service or build around a Moe Norman configuration or Bryson DeChambeau?

To me, (I’m not done with my complete analysis) it looks like both Cobra and the generics have decided to go with a 62.5 lie angle which is common for a standard seven iron.  Well that is certainly not Bryson DeChabeau based by the video below, and maybe too upright for Moe Norman. I’m not sure.

Being that the generics I assuming followed the lead of Cobra, then we have no choice but to move the lie angles as far as we could which was to 64 degrees and stand closer to the ball for a more upright swing plane.  If we’re going to find out if Bryson’s method is a better way to play golf than we have to head in his direction.  A word of caution!  From the video below, I’m not certain that Bryson swings the golf club exactly like Moe?

With that in mind we have to head in one direction or look for two answers.

1: Does swinging the golf club on a vertical plane, (more upright) create a more consistent and tighter ball flight pattern.

2: Does the single length golf club make it easier for the average golfer by only having one set-up throughout the set in ball position, distance from the ball AND more importantly does the single length concept help golfers hit the center of gravity of the golf club more often?

We still have work to do.  I just ordered another shaft configuration that I think will help and its’ on the way.  One seemingly important issue is the six, five and four iron not getting enough height. I might have that resolved with a different shaft configuration and cutting procedures.  We’ll know soon!  Check back for further information as we follow this trail to a possible improvement in everybody’s golf game.

Single Length Golf Clubs Part II

Golf Clubs Like Bryson DeChambeau

As we delve into this mystery golf club configuration we certainly know more than when we started.  I’ve had several conversations with the manufacturers of the golf club heads for this project and also hit the Cobra F7 golf clubs which should be on the market in January.

As I say in the video below, I am very suspicious of the golf clubs manufacturers and their attempt to commercialize this configuration to something it’s not.  That’s why I called this series the “truth about single length golf clubs.”

I’m still interested enough to keep going but not convinced enough to offer you a trial run and recommendation.  We still have a way to go.

In the video below we begin to address the lie angle issue.

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The lie angles on Bryson’s golf clubs are extremely upright!  You’ll understand more when I do the analysis of Bryson’s swing vs Moe Norman the famous Canadian golfers who Bryson is supposedly modeling his swing after.

You can read this article by Kevin Casey in Golf Week which discusses in detail the Bryson DeChambeau configuration.  It doesn’t sound like the configuration the golf club companies are offering you.  Looks like they are expecting you to swing traditional on a 62.5 degree lie angle just with shorter single length golf clubs.  Wait a minute!  Didn’t those same manufacturers tell you longer and lighter was better?

Here’s the video from day 2:

Single Length Golf Clubs

Is Bryson DeChambeau on to something?

The idea of single length golf clubs it not a new thing.  Years ago the Tommy Armour company tried to market a set of equal length golf clubs and failed.  You can get all the history about single length golf clubs by combing the internet.

I’m not concerned with the history here or the ability for a golf club company to sell higher profits.  My question is, does this golf club configuration actually make it easier for golfers to play?  With all the talk about making the game easier, shorter, golf courses that are only 6 holes long and even making the hole bigger, is single length golf clubs a possible positive contributor to making golf more accessible and enjoyable for the average golfer.

When I mentioned these golf clubs to my good friend Larry Wilson he said that he already had a set of single length golf clubs.  Doesn’t matter which one he hits, they all 100 yards!

I am going to make a best effort to find out if this idea has merit above and beyond a tour player like Bryson DeChambeau.  I will study this topic from a practical point of view.  I will not consider this a search for extra power or pinpoint accuracy, although those could be the results we find.  My concern is with ease of play and consistency.

Keep in touch with this Blog for the latest as I post videos of the progress so far.  You will see day one of the study below and I will post day two as quickly as possible.

Oh one thing before we start the video.  I guess you are asking what is the difference between the single length golf clubs and a standard configuration?  Well, in a standard set of irons the weight of the club heads are staggered by seven grams.  For instance, a six iron club head weighs about 257 grams and might be a golf club once assembled at 38 inches long.  A five iron would have a golf club head weight of 250 grams (seven grams lighter) and have a total length after assembled of 38 1/2 inches.  As the golf club shaft lengthens the club head weight is diminished by seven grams per golf club.

In a single length set of golf clubs all the golf clubs are the same length, (approximately 37 to 37 1/2 inches) and all the golf club head weights are identical. About the same head weight of a seven iron.  The difference per golf club head is the loft.

That means that with every golf club the same length, no more moving the golf ball around in your stance.  You stand at the same distance form the ball on every club.  You only need to learn one stance and set up that works for every club.

Now please watch the video for more details….

The New Kirkland Golf Ball

Costco is going to hurt the golf store business big time with this one!

Post image for The Case Against The Costco Kirkland Signature BallYou may have already heard and if you haven’t you’re going to now!  Costco is coming out with it’s own golf ball that will rival the TitleistV1 which sells for about $48 a dozen, for only $15.00 a dozen!

OK so if Costco sells a cheap hard cover ball that only a hacker might consider that’s OK and has been very acceptable in the market place for quite some time now.  In fact, now even Walmart sells Titlelist golf balls.  However I think most of their sales are probably the lower cost balls for their clientele of golfers.

But now, if Costco can in fact produce a top level golf ball equal to or as they now claim better than the Titleist V1 at less than half the cost, maron!  It’s going to make the quality golf ball experience and advantage available to all the average golfers out there.  I’m all for it!

You have to ask yourself one question? Why so cheap?  Or maybe has Titleist been ripping us all along?  My Golf Spy did an in depth test on the new Kirkland golf ball with launch monitors the works.  Performs in every way as well as the Titleist in spin ratios etc. accept for one thing.  IT GOES FURTHER!!!!!!!!

Here’s the link to the entire article.  http://www.mygolfspy.com/kirkland-vs-titleist-pro-v1/

They claim to be back in stock on December 20th so you better get to the Costco website and order quick because they will surely run out again.  Go to http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-Four-Piece-Urethane-Cover-Golf-Ball%2c-2-dozen.product.100310467.html

Good luck getting some! 

 

Same or One Length Single Length Golf Clubs

What’s all the Hype About Same Length Golf Clubs

With the exposure Bryson DeChambeau, (U.S. Amateur Champion) has provided for his same length, one length or single length golf clubs, I felt it necessary to look into the merits of such a golf club configuration to see if it would indeed benefit our students and yes myself as well.

Every golfer wants to improve no matter what type of golf game they play, or they’re not really a golfer in my opinion.  They’re just out for recreation.

I started combing through the internet to see what was out there in hard evidence concerning same length, one length or single length golf clubs.  I found quite a bit more information than I expected.  Of course, all of what I am about to reveal to you is subject to actually trying a set out to experience the proven performance rather than perceived performance.

I new that years ago Tommy Armour tried the concept of single length golf clubs with little success. Here’s a report on the program  By Mike Sorensen, Sports Writer. This report was written in 1989!!!  The report mentions: The Tommy Armour Company first became involved in the one-length design after company president Bob MacNally played a round of golf with PGA Touring pro Bruce Lietzke six years ago. After the round in which MacNally had his problems, Lietzke suggested that he would be all right if could just use a 6-iron all the time. That got MacNally thinking and he asked the company to make him a special set of clubs all the length of a 6-iron.

Makes sense but will you loose distance on your long irons with the shorter length?  Is your wedge going to be longer and too heavy?  More on that in a moment.

single-plane-golf-swingA common argument among all the same length, one length or single length golf clubs suppliers is the ability to learn only one set up position, ball position and swing plane.  Again I’m not sure that argument as merit until I try a set.  One thing I do know for sure and demonstrate to students on occasion, that the loft has a lot more to do with the distance a ball travels than the length of the golf club.  Take out your eight iron and hit it full.  Then get out your four iron and choke up to eight iron length and hit it.  Bet it goes way past your eight iron shot.  Same length different loft.  Of course in this example the head weight of the traditional four iron is much lighter than the eight iron.

To learn the exact difference in distance between same length, one length or single length golf clubs and the traditional configuration you can check out the report written by Dave Tutelman.  Dave did a detailed report with tests on distance, trajectory and more.  If you look at Dave’s report you will see that the distances between the traditional length golf clubs and the single length golf clubs is not that different with the exception of the long irons, like the three and four irons.

OK so you won’t loose much distance if any but will you be more accurate and consistent?  Maybe?  Having taught golf since 1970 it makes sense to me that if golfers could only learn one ball position and set up some variables would be thereby eliminated.

We mentioned loft as the most influential factor in distance.  Well the lofts of the same length, one length or single length golf clubs is practically identical to industry standard if there is one anymore.  Golf club companies are notorious for decreasing loft for added distance to increase sales.  The length is about a six or seven iron length, (depending on which supplier you use) and all the heads weigh about the same as a six or seven.  In a traditional set of golf clubs each golf club is 1/2 inch different in length with a decreasing head weight of seven grams for every 1/2 inch added in length.

Typical Iron Set
Club 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW GW SW
Loft 21° 24° 28° 32° 36° 40° 44° 48° 52° 55°
Lie 59° 60° 61° 61.5° 62° 63° 64° 64° 64° 64°
Weight (grams) 239 246 253 260 267 274 281 285 284 296
Single Length  Iron Set
Club 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW GW SW LW
Loft 20° 25° 30° 35° 39° 43° 47° 51° 55° 59°
Lie 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5°
Weight (grams) 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272

I found on interesting quote from a golf club executive.

“Same length has been done, personally I’ve been a fan but it’s a tough concept to sell. Reality; In the US golf industry there are 6 major chains that buy product that is sold to what constitutes 85% of the market. All but roughly 2-3 % of the rest is sold in golf pro shops and they are influenced by the retailers. The buyers for these major chains only buy what is played on tour and pretty much in order of market share. Like it or not we dance to that tune. To introduce something like single length after investing in the design we’d have to spend millions on marketing and not so minor get tour credibility because no product is successful at retail without it.”

-Anonymous Former Major Golf Company CEO

You’re probably asking yourself alright Lopez so what?  Well your friendly Cuban golfing buddy will again sacrifice himself as the Ginnie Pig and build a set of single length golf clubs so I and you can try them out.  It’s the only way we’re going to know if this concept will help us both play better golf.  That means stay tuned as I have already sent out feelers to suppliers and will purchase the best quality heads I can get.

Figure maybe April 25th or so I should have a set put together for you to try.  Keep up with our Golf Blog and Facebook http://www.facebook.com/quickfixgolf

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The Pros Only Hit 240 Yard Drives!

The Pros Only Hit 240 Yard Drives!

Yes you probably don’t believe it but I am going to prove it to you on the video below of Gene Littler and Byron Nelson playing a match on The Shells Wonderful World of Golf show in 1962.  Heck I was 12 years old then.  I remember the golf balls we had then and the golf clubs.  Sure golf clubs were heavier and shorter.  The golf balls were soft and curved a lot more.

We never heard of blades because the typical blade golf club was all we had!  Every kid I knew started out with a set of Sam Snead Blue Ridge.  I started out with a set of wooden shafted irons and one ladies three wood, Louise Suggs.

Heck when I played in the 70’s we used to carry a ring which hung from our golf bags that you could use to push the golf ball through the ring to make sure it was still round.  We would use a golf ball for only three holes on tour then.  Yup, three holes and into the shag bag it went!  What’s a shag bag?  Well we hand to carry our own practice balls back then and our caddies would stand out on the range and catch the golf balls and put them back in the bag.

I looked all over Google and could not find a picture of a driving range full of caddies.  Maybe you can find one and email it to me.  It was amazing they didn’t get killed out there.

First take a look at the video below, (only 10 minutes long) and notice that the drives from Byron Nelson and Gene Littler were going 230 to 240 yards at the longest.  One par three was 225 yards and they hit their drivers!  They were using 5 irons from 160 yards!  Boy how the game of golf has changed.

Another bonus is you’ll get a peak at Pine Valley Golf Club.

 

The show was held at the very secretive Pine Valley golf club.  You can read a nice article which was forwarded to us by one of our valued lesson members Howard Casway.

See the complete article on Pine Valley and it’s very interesting history at http://articles.philly.com/2016-02-08/sports/70424528_1_pine-valley-crump-cup-clementon